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CCFD To Move Forward With Receivership Plans

Central Coventry firefighters have unanimously voted to continue serving their district without pay for the time being.

 

After a 1.5 hour-long union meeting on Tuesday evening, Central Coventry Fire District officials and staff members voted to continue providing fire and EMS services to Central Coventry residents, despite not receiving pay to do so.

"I have several members who are already two months past due on their mortgages, I have several others who are a month or so behind on other bills," said Captain and union president Dave Gorman. "While no one likes the idea of working and not getting paid for it, as of right now we will continue to provide service to the community like we've always done."

When asked how or if this decision will be affected by the Fair Labor Standards Act that may forbid members to volunteer where they are employed, Gorman explained that the district will simply continue serving its residents unless something impedes the decision.

"Our thought process is not to really worry about that at this point unless someone files a charge against it," he said.

Based on the union's decision to continue working, Chief Andrew Baynes will begin moving forward with the plan to file for receivership as early as Wednesday afternoon. 

"We've always treated the residents with professionalism, courtesy, respect and dignity," continued Gorman. "Although it mentally tears on you as a provider to not get paid for your job, I have the utmost confidence in the guys that I work with that we will provide the same level of care as we always do. It's in our blood to provide this job. We're a different breed."

An additional roadblock that the district has run into involves its source of diesel fuel for the fire apparatus. Up until now, the district has purchased its fuel from the Town of Coventry and generally has to refuel the firetrucks on a daily basis. Based on a decision made by Town Manager Tom Hoover, Police Chief Bryan Volpe, Town Solicitor Fred Tobin and Town Council President Gary Cote, the Town will not allow the fire district to use the municipal fuel source during this transitional period.

"At this point, they've already taken a vote to file for receivership and to give them fuel credit as this point, the Town of Coventry would be listed as an unsecured creditor and the taxpayers would be put on the hook for that bill," explained Cote. "Once they file for receivership, the Town would be considered a secured creditor and we will be willing to work with them. We just can't take the chance of not being reimbursed for the fuel that they use."

Cote went on to say that he has spoken with Anthony Fire Chief Paul Labbadia and Hopkins Hill Fire Chief Frank Brown about covering any calls that Central Coventry cannot handle in the coming weeks.

"Both Chiefs Brown and Labbadia have agreed to cover calls in the Central Coventry Fire District as needed," he said. "The health and safety of the residents will not suffer."

Check back with Coventry Patch for more information as it becomes available.

QuidnickCrusader October 11, 2012 at 04:02 PM
Simple guy, You have stirred my curiosity. I am wondering where in Hunter's Crossing you reside. The boundary lines of Central Coventry Fire District and the Anthony Fire District run right through that neighborhood. Based on your numbers, I must assume that you reside in the section that is within the Anthony Fire District. I myself reside in the Central district, and I will tell you that my tax bill for Central the last two years has been $713, on a home valued by the Town at $392,000. That's on a residential rate of $1.82 per thousand. Your "basic raised ranch" would need to have been valued at around $581,000 to see a Central tax bill of $1,058. The highest valued home on today's valuation in the Hunter's Crossing plat is valued at $402,000, on Bellmare Rd., which is within the Anthony Fire District. There is no way, even if this was your house, that the valuation decreased by $179,000 to reflect the current valuation. In regards to your assertion that your Central tax bill was $1,058.11, the math doesn't work. I am unfamiliar with the Anthony rates, but it is common knowledge that the rate in that district increased by 10% when their budget and tax rates were set last December.
John October 11, 2012 at 04:23 PM
" simple guy" Looking at bill in front of me, Val $ 293000. I stand corrected fire bill 532.00. You must have a 600,000 house. I can't make the next meeting but make the sign red if you would please.
John October 11, 2012 at 04:30 PM
Most "vollies" at Hopkins are high school kids. What happens when they go back to school and what is theyr'e level of training? and if you want to have volunteers who is paying for all that expesive training only to have these guys run to a city dept. for much better pay?? Just asking
QuidnickCrusader October 11, 2012 at 04:30 PM
I did some further investigating for you: Coventry/Anthony Fire District residential rate is $2.80 per thousand. Based upon your bill of $1,058, your valuation would have had to be around $378,000. If I were you, I would; A. determine exactly which district I live in, and B. start asking some questions. If your assertion is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, something is seriously awry with your tax bill. Hope this helps.
John October 11, 2012 at 04:34 PM
All you Assalone followers, He want's to have one flat tax so you pay to drop the taxes on his business while your residental goes thru the roof...sound fair to everyone??
Fred Cournoyer October 11, 2012 at 04:45 PM
Forget about Western helping. They can't even get the trucks out in their own district, never mind helping Central. Over half of them have no qualifications either!
John October 11, 2012 at 05:14 PM
I will let you know where to send the check!!
John October 11, 2012 at 05:19 PM
Simple if everyone paid theyr'e taxes, we wouldn't have problem! As far as I can see sitting in the back row of that meeting assalone and his minnions have way to much power, Guess it helps to own these parks! You can't go on forever without a tax increase 3 years now.
Jarred Lussier October 11, 2012 at 06:05 PM
Watch yourself Giggles! I'm doing a life sentence for my grammar mistake... But I should be out in 5 years with good behavior.
Cov Resident 58 October 11, 2012 at 07:50 PM
Hey Fred... Im a Western Coventry resident, and I have a suggestion for you.... GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH!!! It's IDIOTS like yourself that come on here and post BS that make EVERYONE look bad. 1. Why don't you give me an example of a recent situation where WCFD failed to respond to a call because they could not get the trucks out the door... You can't do so because no such situation exists. 2. All firefighters and EMS personnel are required to have the same qualifications weather they are paid, call, or volunteer. I assure you that the staff that work the duty shifts at WCFD are all licensed EMT's, Cardiac's or Paramedics as well as a MINIMUM of NFPA 1001, most have NFPA 1002.... These are the EXACT SAME qualifications the guys in Central and every other fire department in the country have. 3. You say "Forget about Western helping"... I suggest you do your homework. As of right now, Western has responded mutual aid to Central more times this year than Central has responded to Western... Next time get your facts straight before you open your mouth and you wont look like such a JACKASS!!!
Rhodeyresident0303 October 11, 2012 at 09:25 PM
I'm sorry but this comes down to a power struggle. There is no need for Coventry to have so many departments, trucks, and firefighters (both fulltime and volunteer). Why not staff the ALS rescues fulltime and place the at the north, south, east, and west stations. And staff 4 engines and a ladder. How many stations does coventry have total? 52 lol... Its not New York City or even providence. Coventry doesn't need 5 rescues, 3 ladders, 7 engines, and 600 chiefs!!!! Time to down size sell the extra equipment and stations and go from there. Even if the volunteers and fulltime firefighters work together then they should all have the firefighter and emt cardiac certifications. If your not certified to do the job and be able to care for a patient or go in the house when its on fire or pump the truck then your just a waste of space. Didn't Central Coventry get a grant not to long back to hire firefighters ? Doesn't that grant last 2 years? Then why don't those firefighters staff the rescues till the time being
Rhodeyresident0303 October 11, 2012 at 09:38 PM
Can someone answer this question? In Western Coventry and Hopkins Hill is there a policy in place when a call comes in who can get on the trucks and respond? Certifications and licenses, age, rank etc etc... Basically what I am asking is if a call for a house fire or a patient in cardiac arrest comes in can someone without any certifications in firefighting or EMT- B,C,P respond?
taxpayer46 October 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM
ok enough is enough ltes sit down and talk with all this pointing fingers at each other we could had had a bugdet by know with all this pointing Thanks
RS October 11, 2012 at 10:39 PM
Rhodey, You can't have 4 stations in Coventry. Too many square miles. ISO has a maximum response distance when it sets insurance rates. Western part of town requires more trucks with bigger water tanks due to lack of hydrants. I suggest you go to the various districts and ask specifics because trying to get info here is pretty worthless.
Cov Resident 58 October 11, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Rhodyresident.... I can not speak for Hopkins Hill, but im sure their policy is the same or similar. In Western Coventry, when an apparatus responds to a call, it always has a crew with qualifications on board. Thats not to say that every person who is on the truck is fully qualified... sometimes newer members who are in the process of obtaining their certifications are allowed on calls if the crew needs an extra set of hands... but for that truck to respond, there is always qualified firefighters or emt's on board. In addition, drivers of apparatus have to be of a certain age, have certain qualifications and receive additional training in emergency vehicle driving/operation. The people who come on here and make comments that the firefighters in Western and Hopkins Hill are less qualified than the other departments in town are misinformed and misleading. These guys are required to have the exact same certifications as every other fire department in the country and they don't allow just anyone to take a truck and respond to a call. I hope that answered your question. If not or if you'd like more information, I would suggest stopping in to one of the stations. Im sure the staff at Western or Hopkins Hill would be happy to answer any questions you may have.
lyc October 12, 2012 at 10:33 PM
Just an fyi hopkins hill has paid fire fighters that are union and they have call men/women
lyc October 12, 2012 at 11:08 PM
Hopkins Hill has paid union Fire Fighters and are staffed 24/7 I don't know why people are just assuming they are all voulenteer. They also have voulenteers.
wickchevy October 12, 2012 at 11:52 PM
How is a Volunteer covered if injured on a call? ie. getting sick from a Pt under their care, or at an auto acc. or structure fire? Will the Volunteers place of employment pay them sick time and hold their job for them until fit to return? Just some of the questions to consider if i were Volunteering. Being a Firefighter who also provides rescue service is not a hobby or a side job unless it is an extremely slow Dept. where there is not an interior fire attack option at a structure fire trust me.
James St Jean October 13, 2012 at 07:08 PM
It costs me about $1.65 per day for fire and rescue services in Anthony. I'll be willing to bet most people without complaint spend at least that per day for coffee or a 20 oz. soda at the local convenience store. More than likely $4.00 per day. Lets get realistic.
dohn joe December 26, 2012 at 03:59 PM
I have worked with unions for many years. Im am very sure that they told the firefighters to work for free because when all is said and done, the union will get them all the money that is due to them plus more. The union will not let their members go without money without being compensated later on. There must be a deal somewhere that they are not telling us, that will pop up later on saying that now the firefighters will get a million dollars apiece. mark my words, i know the unions. This is all shady work done by the unions and firefighters. Im am very sure the unions told the firefighters what they will be getting later on. so dont go giving me that BS that the firemen are working for free. You will all see, they are going to screw us later on. It sounds like they are doing something out of the kindness of their hearts, but its all gonna come down to them just waiting for the union to get them that big lump sum.
Realistic voter December 26, 2012 at 04:09 PM
WOW , Day after Christmas and already the hate is flying from you > Hows life in the park going?
RS December 26, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Dohn, you are an idiot. It's common knowledge that they are working without pay until a budget is passed. At that point they will get whatever they normally would have gotten. No one is going to get paid any more than their normal salary. Guess you hate firefighters so much that you needed to get this topic active again with your lies and misinformation.
dohn joe December 26, 2012 at 05:10 PM
I dont hate anyone. Im simply stating how its going to happen. They will be reimbursed for what their owed plus more for waiting. Dont feel bad for these guys, their not working for free. realistic, i have no clue about any park that your speaking of, and rs sounds like he was supposed to keep it hush hush and not let anyone know. Good try but i know unions way too well. I was a rep for mine years ago. I left mine after finding out that they would let the company close down becuase they werent going to get their fair share, so dont tell me about how unions work, ive sat thru too many meetings to hear your garb and how everything will be ok.
RS December 26, 2012 at 07:16 PM
Dohn, again with your fantasies. Any agreement would have to go thru the special master and would need to be public since it's a municiple contract. If it does happen, which sounds like a fantasy to me, it will be public record.
eye in the sky December 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM
dohn joe..I have a simple question for you. Now use that pimple between your shoulders and think hard..Could you survive and would you have worked all those weeks without pay???
dohn joe January 02, 2013 at 03:13 PM
@ eye in the sky. If i knew i was getting a hefty pension if i stayed then yes i would wait and work for free. Why walk away from a pension that was golden. If you ask me, alot of these out of work people in this state would be more than happy to work it..... as long as they get a piece of that pension.
RS January 03, 2013 at 05:07 AM
A pension they PAY for. You make it seem like it's a gift. I assume you just moved to this state last year. The cops and firefighters have been getting pensions for decades but obviously an authority like you had no clue up till now. Where were you Dohn back in the 90s when the unions were sueing the municipalities for not investing their contributions? Maybe you should have payed attention earlier
eye in the sky January 03, 2013 at 04:36 PM
You are full of sh@t ! You sound like a person who has never done anything for anybody but themselves!!
dohn joe January 03, 2013 at 07:58 PM
you must be very educated people rs and eye for trying so hard to talk me down with your childish answers. You dont know a thing about me nor will you ever, simply because i choose to stay away from fantasy chasers like you both. Now the both of you sound like your working for the cause but in reality are just trying to sound smart. it seems that if they didnt stay and work for so-called free, then they would lose that nice pension that they have coming. regardlessof how hard their jobs are, if its good enough pension for them, then it should be statewide for everyone. they chose to take on those jobs and knew it was life threatening and still chose to do it. So dont tell me this bullshit about how hard they work and how dangerous it is. I do know that they will get their pay plus more. there is no denying that fact at all. This is all im going to say, so enjoy your new year and smile.
RS January 03, 2013 at 08:42 PM
Dohn, yes, they took the job but the rules got changed after they were there. Who in their right mind would walk away from a career because of a budget problem. No one ever assumed they wouldn't be paid their back wages. You seem very hung up on pensions. I assume that you are either a politician or a Firefighter wannabe that couldn't hack it. CCFD will straighten out their affairs and the taxpayers will either like it or hate it. Maybe we should let the people that were elected and the person overseeing teh finances worry about that with people like you trying to wind up everyone.

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