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Poll: Should RI Re-Think its Motorcycle Helmet Laws?

Should Rhode Island join other states that require all motorcyclists wear helmets?

 

Motorcycle crashes killed 4,502 people in 2010 in the United States. In Rhode Island, news reports of motorcyclist deaths occur regularly throughout the summer and warmer months. Many of the victims weren't wearing helmets.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, helmets are estimated to prevent 37 percent of crash deaths among motorcycle riders and 41 percent of crash deaths for motorcycle passengers.

Rhode Island law requires anyone under 21 to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle. Passengers must wear helmets at all times.

In the wake of numerous motorcycle-related traffic fatalities in Rhode Island, is it time for the state to re-think its helmet laws? Nineteen other states have universal helmet laws.

Advocates say universial helmet laws save lives and money. Motorcycle crash-related costs was $12 billion in one year, according to the CDC. That figure counts both medical care and productivity losses.

And as more people buy bikes and ride, deaths have increased at an alarming rate. Motorcycle-related deaths have increased 55 percent since 2000, according to the CDC.

People who choose not to wear helmets and opponents of universal helmet law say it's an issue of personal freedom and a mandatory requirement is unnecessary government interference.

  • Should Rhode Island require all motorcyclists wear helmets?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • No, keep existing law.
        62 (50%)
    • Yes, change the law.
        60 (49%)
    Total votes: 122
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Motorcycle helmet law, Poll, Rhode Island, Universal Helmet Law, and motorcycle accidents

Julia Turner

10:12 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

Absolutely! EVERYONE no matter what age, driver or passenger everyone riding a motorcycle should be forced to wear helmets. Why wouldn't they? We have to wear seatbelts while riding in cars. Everyone needs to wear a helmet while riding a bicycle. Motorcyclists ride at extensive speeds and should they crash they will die. I vote YES on re-thinking of our helmet law.

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PC

10:40 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

Excessive speeds*, and for those people that ride at excessive speeds, a helmet wouldn't save their life.

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Joe Sousa.

5:02 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Those who ride should decide . Helmets inhibit peripheral vision and hearing due to wind noise. Many never see or hear the car and get hit. That's why the law is what it is.

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Robert E

5:10 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Joe that is b.s. I never ride without a helmet it does not inhibit peripheral vision and with all the noise your bike is making from the loud pipes you can't hear anything anyway. You just don't want to ware a helmet just say so but don't use false facts to make your point.

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RS

5:42 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I'm with Robert, I wear a half helmet and no vision issues at all.

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Joe Sousa.

5:49 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I have mufflers and wear a half helmet too. It's my choice
When it's hot I go with out the sweat gets in my eyes. Cant see ahhhhhhhhh crash.

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al

6:40 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I agree helmets should be used, it protects you from accidental death, meaning not always your the probelm it's the other person that cuts you off or hits you by accident, anyway the accident might kill you regardless if you have a helmet or not, BUT you should die of Head injuries due to the fact you had no helmet , oh well shame on you.

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Henry B. Swap

7:25 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Yes, the government should dictate every aspect of our lives to us since we are all helpless and need big brother to make our decisions for us.

susanne evans

10:26 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

I agree! No dogs on laps of a driver in a car but no helmet? Where is the logic? A person with a helmet has a greater success of less brain injury <life time I might add> and who is paying their long term stay in nursing homes? The tax payers!

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PC

10:31 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

I think, if you don't own a Motorcycle or have a license to ride a Motorcycle your vote doesn't count. An argument could be made for not having to wear a helmet if you're an organ donor. You would save more lives if you died.

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Suzanne Arena

9:34 pm on Sunday, September 16, 2012

PC, that's rubbish. Data driven facts: The data continue to prove that motorcycle helmet laws save lives. Government & privately conducted studies support effectiveness of helmets and the impact of laws reduce the number of serious injuries & fatalities. Results:
NHTSA estimates that in 1996 helmets saved 490 motorcyclists’ lives. If all motorcyclists in all 50 states & District of Columbia had worn a helmet, that number would have been 769.
NHTSA estimates that from 1984-1996 helmets saved the lives of 7,940 motorcyclists. If all motorcyclists in all 50 states and the District of Columbia had worn a helmet during that time, number of lives saved: 14,505.
Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) data: helmets are 29% effective in reducing fatalities in motorcycle crashes.
A study completed at the University California - Los Angeles (UCLA) determined that statewide motorcycle fatalities declined 40.3% from 1991, before the California motorcycle helmet law for all riders was in effect, to 1993, the 2nd full year that California’s law was in effect: 239 lives were saved over the same period due to law.
Study revealed that 24 out of 26 states that repealed their universal helmet laws experienced an average 25% increase in fatalities.
The death rate for motorcyclists rose 61% the year following Kansas’ repeal of its universal helmet law.
A privately conducted study reported a 40% increase in fatally injured motorcyclists in states repealing their universal helmet laws.

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Henry B. Swap

7:34 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

It's my life and if I want to risk it by not wearing a helmet, then why shouldn't I be able to? I have health insurance and life insurance so my death would not cost any taxpayer anything ever. Please tell me the GA has something better to deal with than increasing the size and scope of government.

Suzanne Arena

9:40 pm on Sunday, September 16, 2012

http://www.savemolives.com/programs/documents/UCLAHelmetLawStudy.pdf

@Suzanne, there is no logic...and they said that Dog Bill was already on the books! I researched it before we put it in, and we couldn't find it. No one seemed to feel it existed, but they are aware of it now - LOL! I know many motorcyclists that have been whacked because of distracted drivers.

Point above, my 10 year old pedals a lot slower on his bicycle and he's always saying how 'dumb' it is when motorcyclists don't wear theirs because they drive so fast. He says they don't sound smart. When you hear comments like, well...you don't have one so POOF, you can't comment is ridiculous. I care about your safety and you should just wear a helmet and be part of the solution, instead of the statistics.

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Jennifer Pettis Jordan

10:39 pm on Sunday, September 16, 2012

I agree helmets should be worn, especially because of the non motorcycle drivers that don't want to share the roads with the motorcyclists. The ones that cause the accidents, especially the ones that like to hit motorcyclists, are at fault and get away with it. My husband is lucky to be alive.

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English first

4:39 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Are you really implying that there are somepeople that like to hit motorcyclists? Really?

Straight Talker

10:27 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Not only should they be forced to wear helmets, they should also be fined for modifying their exhausts, which causes the bikes to make excessive noice. This simple measure would allow the rest of the inhabitants in RI to enjoy their summer weekends without having to listen to motorbikes roaring along our roads.

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TAMORI

11:47 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

"Not only should they be forced to wear helmets, they should also be fined for modifying their exhausts, which causes the bikes to make excessive noice."

Strongly concur!!!

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PC

2:24 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Loud exhausts make idiots in cars aware that there is a Motorcycle near them. See just more ignorance about motorcycles. If ya don't own one or aren't licensed to ride one, your vote is null and void.

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Robert E

5:20 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Do loud pipes save lives?

The answer is a firm NO. In some instances a car driver may indeed notice you, such as when you're riding next to a car which has the driver's side window down. Situations like this one are extremely rare. Most dangers to motorcyclists come from the front, where your loud exhaust can't be heard; the sound waves from the exhaust pipe(s) propagate backward. The driver of that car about to make a left turn in front of you (by far the largest cause of motorcycling deaths) simply will not hear you. Think about it: picture yourself in a car, with the windows up, the A/C (or heat) on, and the radio at a comfortable level. Just how much outside noise do you think YOU hear? Especially the noise traveling away from you, where only the few sound waves that bounce back are even capable of being heard in the first place...
How loud exhaust can actually be dangerous to you

Research has shown that the biggest cause of fatigue on long rides is noise. Noise from your own bike will tire you out faster, dulling your senses and thus increasing the risk of an accident - precisely the thing that you were trying to avoid in the first place.
Have you ever thought about how annoying the loud pipes are to the car drivers around you? Especially to the ones who have to follow you for miles in dense traffic? While it has never been proven, it is possible that noise from your motorcycle makes car drivers irritated, angry, more aggressive, and thus more dangerous to you.

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Straight Talker

6:52 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

If it is necessary to make motorcycles illegal in order to make them safe, they clearly should not be driven on public roads.

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Robert E

8:09 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Motorcycles are safe it's the people in the cars that are not safe. 75% of all motorcycle accidents are a result of cars not paying attention and turning in front of the motorcycle. If the drivers pay more attention there would be a lot less accidents. Cars clearly should not be driven on public roads.

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TAMORI

10:48 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

PC – Do you see the inconsistency of your response about loud exhausts? On one had you’re saying you need loud pipes for your safety. On the other hand you’re saying you don’t need the safety of a helmet. If it’s so dangerous for you to ride, then get off the bike. I rode for several years when I was younger and decided I’d rather be safe. I don’t care much if you want to go without the helmet. But hearing your bike from a mile away is intrusive. The loudness for visibility argument is a crock anyway. Try telling motorcyclists they have to wear dayglo vests so they’re more visible and cry about that too.

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shaun

2:57 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Exhuast is not just to be loud it is so people can hear you that do not pay attention.

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Robert E

3:23 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Shaun that doesen't work because the sound is directed tword the back of the motorcycle people don't hear you until after you pass them. It makes it more dangerious for the rider because he can't hear traffic around him. A good horn directed tword the front of the bike does a much better job.

Drew Faria

10:33 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Shocked that you would give up that freedom so willingly to the dictators.

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Drew Faria

10:37 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

"Motorcycle crashes killed 4,502 people in 2010. In Rhode Island " 20 people per day during the driving season ? Absurd ! Site your sources...

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Joe Richer

10:58 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

It seems to me that if this were a matter of safety statistics that motorcycles themselves, and cars as well, would be banned in favor of busses. This is a matter of individual freedom.

I won't ride a motorcycle with or without a helmet since it's too dangerous for ME. But that's my choice. If you choose to not wear one - that's your choice.

I can't even choose what size of Coka Cola I want to drink in NYC.

You've all chosen to give away someone else's freedom to provide them with illusory safety.

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Mike Gorman

9:37 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Excellent comment. If you are willing to give away others personal freedoms, eventually someone is going to to give away yours as well. When that time comes, Big Brother will have absolute power. Per William Wallace - "Freeeeedommmmm"!!!

Woonsocket Rocket

11:14 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

If the government is so concerned about the health of its Citizens I think their witch hunt should begin at the top of the death chain with the tobacco companies. Tobacco related deathes reached almost 500 thousand in the US last year and cost taxpayers 157 billion last year alone!

Tobacco Lobbyiests must be paying lawmaker handsomely to turn their heads on the facts. while healtcare reps must be throwing their 2 cents about their rising expenses due to the helmet issue.

Bottom line here people is the Government cares more about your money then it does about you. Why would anybody enable the Government to regulate your personal freedoms? are they not disapearing fast enough already?

Let those who ride decide!

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Ted Geisel

11:45 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

This is RI, we can't get enough government here. Year after year we vote in people who give us more government. It boggles my mind but this is what the majority of people want.

You hit the nail right on the head with tobacco, Lawmakers happily turn a blind eye when there is enough money involved. But this article and poll is about helmet laws.

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Dan D

2:33 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

500,000 people died from Tobacco last year? Wow, that is an incredible claim. Now back up your sources. I have really never seen anyone died from smoking a cigarette. usually people die from things like lung cancer (non-smokers get this too) and emphysema (non-smokers get this too) and heart disease (french fries cause this too). smoking is a choice. We can and should be allowed to do what we wish. That is called freedom. red meat kills too, lets get rid off all the cows! Heck, lets force everyone to be vegan, because we should get to decide everyone's lifestyle choices! And don;t even get me started on fashion? Where are the fashion police when you need them? Aww, heck with it, let's just adopt communist fascism and be done with it. All in the name of "safety".

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Woonsocket Rocket

10:08 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Dan......Thank you for making my point for me! The Government has as much right to tell us to wear a helmet as they do to make our choices about Tobbaco,The size of our soft drinks,trans fats or red meats! Big Government has got to go!

Gonetothe dogs

11:16 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

If you don't want to wear a helmet, you should not be forced to. BUT should you suffer extensive head injuries due to your stupidity, the insurance company shoud not be required to pay your medical bills.

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cbr

11:17 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

you can choose how big a soda you want in NY. If you drink it and want more, buy another one. the law is stupid.
What if i hit a motorcycle and the person dies because they're not wearing a helmet? I don't want to kill anyone. My aunt had a severe head injury from a motorcycle accident. It has affected her entire life. I think all riders should wear a helmet.

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Ted Geisel

11:37 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

There is the issue of personal freedom here but that also has to be balanced with society's interests. If you choose not to wear a helmet and you are injured or disabled more often than not you will have to rely on the government for your care, unfortunately. As other people have pointed out that's why we have selt belt laws and the like.

Perhaps the law could be amended to preserve personal freedom? If you're in a motorcycle accident and not wearing a helmet then you become ineligible to receive tax payer funded services. Motorcyclists still have their freedom and tax payers are off the hook to a certain extent.

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nimrod

12:02 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

No one should be "forced".Your safety is your responsibility.If it's about money,well,i'm going to say it's about freedom.Or,have we lost that concept?

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Coventry Voter

12:05 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

do we have freedom of coice with seatbelts??

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OldTownie

11:06 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Let's take it one step further. There should be no law that says you must have life vests on boats, (or lifeboats on larger ships). All drugs should be legal. Drunk driving should not be outlawed. You should be able to shoot a gun in your backyard if you wish. There should be no rules on the road and spped limits should be abolished. Motor vehicle safety inspections should be abolished, they are intrusive.

Yeah, you bike riders are all about freedom.

Coventry Voter

12:04 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

If i have to wear a seatbelt when i am surrounded by airbags that will save me then why dont they have to wear a helmet. I dont have the coice of a seatbelt or not.

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Ray Andrews

12:18 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

The seatbelt holds you in place so that the airbags can save you, keeping you in the place where they can inflate and protect you. There is nothing that is going to be able to keep a motorcycle rider in place when struck by another vehicle. In a number of bad motorcycle accidents the helmet wont matter. If your brain is going 50mph when the skull surrounding it suddenly stops, you're going to have problems

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PC

2:32 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Does a seatbelt restrict your vision?

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Robert E

5:11 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

no and neather does a helmet.

Jarred Lussier

12:13 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I say we copy FL state law, If you have heath insurance you don't have to wear one. If not you do. Personally I would rather not wear one. Its a personal choice, but I'd rather be dead than a vegetable on life support.

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Lynne Beaudry

12:33 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

When you lose a close friend, who was not wearing a helmet when a car hit him at a low rate of speed, it seems obvious to me that wearing a helmet should be the law. If he had been wearing a helmet on that day, he would still be here with us.

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PC

2:29 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

How about those of us that have had close friends die with a helmet on? Helmets are a false sense of security.

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Robert E

5:12 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

if you don't want to ware a helmet just say so quit making up false facts to make your point.

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Robert E

11:04 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I'm sorry your frend died but the fact is helmets do save lives. Not everybody is going to live now matter how much safty gear you ware but if they save one life that would have ended they are worth it. Again if you don't want to ware a helmet thats fine but don't say they don't save lives/ If one person that would have worn a helmet now doesn't because as you say Helmets are a false sense of security and they die because of it their death is on your hands.

mad hatter

12:50 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I think its amazing how many people WANT to live in a nanny state. Do you really think a politician need to tell you how to live your life? If I want to be a jerk and ride without a helmet, what business is it of yours when it doesn't affect you?? It would only affect me and my broken skull. Dont get into the health costs either if your not willing to do the math of those 37% that die and have paid into the system for years upon end that now will never make another claim against the health insurance system. This is all about revenue generation by the state. Just like the seatbelt law, they want to write a ticket. If they really cared about the health and well being of the citizenry, they would ban tobacco and alcohol. Why dont they do that? Oh right, because the state pulls in billions over the years on the taxes. Could you imagine the impact if those taxes went away? What kills more people, cigarettes or helmet-less riders? But, you cant ticket a cigarette.....

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Ted Geisel

1:47 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

It affects me when you get in an accident and turn into a vegetable and my tax dollars support your life support machine. What about the kid that is 18 and hardly paid a dime in taxes? Health care isn't cheap, you haven't paid the hundreds of thousands of dollars it could easily cost.

Society, for better or worse, has made an investment in you. Your education and such cost a lot of money. It's in their best interest to keep you alive and productive. As such they have a vested interest in things like this.

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mad hatter

2:58 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Ted, you would thrive in China.

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Naome Lixes

11:31 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

@ mad hatter -
Why would you say that?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22663913
"It would only affect me and my broken skull. Dont get into the health costs either if your not willing to do the math of those 37% that die and have paid into the system for years upon end that now will never make another claim against the health insurance system."

The point is that a hunnert-dolla hemmit is cheaper than feeding you through
a straw for the remainder of your bed-ridden miserable life.

I love it when the local brain trust says "You should go live in China."
Even money says better than half have never been more than 50 miles from home.

"What kills more people, cigarettes or helmet-less riders?"
That's a false equivocation - one's a poison, the other a road hazard.

robert

1:40 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I think its a matter of freedom of choice which every time we turn around its taken from us more and more, i think seatbelts should be to unless under age,and why is it school busses dont have seatbelts hmm

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Robert E

5:14 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

If you choose to ride on the states roads you ride under the states rules.

Maryann Papa

1:46 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

As an avid motorcyclist, it should be the riders decision, I know the risk, however, try to make better decisions on how I ride, and I don't drink and drive my motorcycle. I believe there are many reasons besides helmets for motorcycle crashes, most of them are bad decisions, due to inexperience. I know when I ride anything can happen, helmet or no helmet.

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Leave RI

1:58 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

As a former rider who has worn and not worn a helmet, I don't think any non-rider's vote should count.

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Naome Lixes

11:32 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

If you sign a waiver, saying we can immediately pull the plug on life support if you can't pay for your care - fine. Then it really IS on you.

It can't be both ways - with Freedom, everybody pays.

Chris Demers

2:10 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Why do we as a society feel that we need to dictate to others what they can and cannot do?

This is a personal choice. Motorcyclist well know the the risk involved with riding; with, or without a helmet.

I don't have a motorcycle. I never will either because the public roadways are in high abundance of degenerate motorist'. With my luck, I would survive a motorcycle accident because I was wearing my helmet, but would be paralyzed from the neck down. Personally, I'd rather just expire on the streets and let 10+ people benefit from receiving my organs. Why? because it's my choice.

Mind your own business people.....

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Lorraine F

2:53 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Chris,

I would love it if I had a personal choice allowing me to opt out of providing financial support to those who think life is an adrenaline event.

But as long as the government says none of us have that choice, then laws are the compromise we have to live with.

You'll find out what I'm talking about when you break out of adolescence.

Jim L

2:47 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

This a part of the problem, Newport county is about to get ripped off big time and were discussing helmet laws?Who cares wear it or don't i agree, let the state steal money by tolling my, my kids their kids, Paiva Weed bagged this whole county along with 6 other culprits, Where are they?

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Daniel Kaffee

3:01 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

No. We should be taking laws off the books instead of adding new ones.

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fg

3:04 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

My question is how many people die of head injuries in car accidents? Maybe they should put in a helmet law that all car drivers and passangers have to wear a helmet. Or make another stupid law that just passangers have to wear a helmet in a car. I voted to keep the present helmet law. However I do feel it should be changed to include the passanger. Most motorcycle accidents are caused by car drivers. Maybe anyone who doesn't ride a motorcycle should have to take a course on motorcycle awearness. I do and don't wear a helmet. My helmet cost $250. The reason we fought to have the law repelled was because not all helmets were safe along with it being our choice to wear one. Today I see many people in other states that have helmet laws wearing novalty helmets. If they vote on a new helmet law in this state many riders will opt for one of these helmets. They don't protect you. They are for show only at $30. As for loud exhaust my exhaust is stock on my bike. However any one who puts a loud exhaust on their bike I don't blame them. We have a better chance of not being hit by a car if they can hear us. For the record 6 times I almost got hit on my bike this year. All by car drivers talking on their cell phones. To me a law banning cell phone use is much more important then having a helmet law. I also will admit that these people who ride rice rockets give motorcycling a bad name.

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Chris Demers

3:21 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Lorraine F - thanks for responding to my comment. I know you feel I'm basically an immature child because I disagree with your stance on motorcycle helmets, but that's ok.

Maybe you could furnish us with some backed up data pertaining to motorcycle accident victims, and their burden on the state? Is there a motorcycle accident ward at Eleanor Slater hospital I dont know about? (Eleanor Slater is one of the state run hospitals near the aci just do you know)

Since you, and a bunch of other patchers have molded this into a tax dollars argument, wouldn't it be more feasible if people didn't wear helmets? Helmets save lives right?

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Lorraine F

4:05 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Chris,

I am a Democrat who happens to also believe government should be out of our daily lives. If that means I should support "no helmets", it doesn't.

I hate looking at those roadside memorials with plastic flowers and fading stuffed animals. I know some are there because someone decided to test fate by riding without a helmet.

I know all that is left for family members and friends is to build these little memorials.

If one child of a parent is saved by having a seat belt or helmet law, then the interference in our freedom is worth it.

Let me guess, you've never given one minute of thought to what it would mean to others if that were you by the roadside.

bristolyte

3:22 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

No helmets! Just let nature do it's work, survival of the fittest. Frankly we could use a few less idiots in this country.That crap about the loud exhaust is so that cars can hear them is just another pathetic excuse...

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Mew

4:43 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

bristolyte, I was going to express my own feelings about helmets, you did it for me, Im sorry I have no sympathy fora M. driver if he chooses to not wear a helmit. I agree 100% let nature take it's course. there are too many of you on the road!!
And you are so annoying with your exhaust pipes blaring away.AND PLEASE!!
tell your family not to put up Memorials where you crashed!!! Take your children there instead and show them what happens when you don't wear a helmit!! AMEN!!

Still Hope

4:26 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

21% of the workforce is disabled. Most are from preventable accidents or irresponsible lifestyles. I don't think the Founding Fathers had envisioned this future for the America that they bled for.

But yes, by not wearing a helmet, you are exercising your personal freedom. You are also free to be a fat slob, a lousy parent, and a useless drunk. Congratulations.

With regard to the cigarette argument: the current generation made deals with the cigarette companies that prevent my generation from taking any action against them in the future. Thanks for that.

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russell archambault

5:07 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

STILL HOPE; you always seem to forget one thing or another, what about the wonderful people who choose to do drugs. pot, crack and heroin in this state. You wouldn't believe the cost to taxpayers .FREEDOM an over statement.

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Naome Lixes

11:35 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

"With regard to the cigarette argument: the current generation made deals with the cigarette companies that prevent my generation from taking any action against them in the future."

You did see that warning label, printed on the pack?

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Chris DeBlois

3:48 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

So not wearing a helmet is similar to being a bad parent, or an alcoholic?

Daniel Kaffee

4:41 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

15% of that that 21% make up 80 % of the posters on this site and listeners to Larry.

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Joe Sousa.

6:02 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Did Bell pay for that study ?

russell archambault

5:13 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

EF, great web site. People have a right to do as they please but at least they sould know the facts. Lets hope you may have helped one rider to think about it. Thanks

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English first

8:26 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

It is a long study. I tried to copy and paste a few sections but I was unable to do so. The author must have wanted us to read the report in context.

Dermody

5:13 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I think it should be a rider's choice. Instead of contimplating whether or not to wear a helmet, consider becoming an organ donor.

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Nick Dunse

8:26 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Way more money for health care is spent on illegals than bikers who were hurt in accidents. I for one will never surrender my rights as a free American and a proud vet who fought for my country. Let those who ride DECIDE, Nick D proud RIMA member.

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Mike A.

8:56 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Let those of us who ride decide. Had a few close calls mainly due to the cager being on their cell phone.

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russell archambault

10:40 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Maybe half of this debate could end if the law would pass seat belts for bike riders . Now my other solution is to pass a law on auto riders to wear helmets. Now is everyone happy!

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john westlake

12:20 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Ready to drink the cool-aide I see? Figures lie and liars figure. $12 billion a year? First, they failed to mention 'which' year. Second, how is $$$ lost due to medical care and productivity loss? The healthcare system is one big racket, and will make $$$ on any motorcycle injury. Second, we have seen steady unemployment since the beginning of the financial crisis in 2008.....plenty of folks available to take your place. The only loss would be the week it takes to learn your job.
Getting back to the numbers......percentage wise there are more motorcyclists on the road every year. We can thank popular TV shows like OCC, SOA, etc for that. You'll find that proportionately the number of fatalities is close to what it always has been.
It is indeed a different riding environment out there now than it was in 1975 when I first got my motorcycle license here in RI. More traffic, driving faster, distracted, older, etc.
There are many personal reasons for not wearing one. It has gotten to the point that many refuse to wear one to express their freedom. Freedom from laws placed on us by those who do not understand. Back in the mid 70's the Rhode Island Motorcycle Association stood up against the State legislation, and RI became the first state in the country to repeal the helmet law. It's all about Freedom. Got Freedom?
Big John, RIMA Member #350.

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Naome Lixes

11:38 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

"The healthcare system is one big racket, and will make $$$ on any motorcycle injury."

Fees for services rendered - that's a racket?
Perhaps you mean Health Insurance, the parasite on the host?

It's the same argument made by freeloaders in the uninsured health care pool -
"Why should I pay when everybody else is buying in?"

When you're lying in the ER, you won't be complaining about what it costs.

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Naome Lixes

11:41 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

"It has gotten to the point that many refuse to wear one to express their freedom."
Couldn't you just wear a lapel pin or something?

Helmets keep simple scrapes from becoming fatal mistakes...
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/07/parish_man_protesting_motorcyc.html

Woonsocket Rocket

8:21 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

I see 42 of the above voters don't ride. Just curious how many of the above feel about the seatbelt law? Great job enabling big goverment to become bigger. Heres a thought for you all! How would you feel about a 12oz limit on Dunkin Dounuts Coffee? That stuff is full of fat,calories and caffine! Very bad for you! Its diffrent when it effects you personally isn't it?

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Naome Lixes

11:46 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

"Heres a thought for you all! How would you feel about a 12oz limit on Dunkin Dounuts Coffee? That stuff is full of fat,calories and caffine! Very bad for you!"

How many people die from fatal donut injuries, each year?
How many are involved in fatal accidents from spilled coffee?

It's a false equivocation.

I rode for 14 years, never once saddled up without my helmet and leather.
The last time I rode, I was slowly edged off the pavement (in Montana) by an old lady that never saw me. When you ride, you're invisible.

If they're deaf, straight pipes won't help you.

What saved my hide (literally) was sweating it out under my Vansons.
That was twenty years ago - and drivers have not improved.

You'll never see a professional ride without one...

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Woonsocket Rocket

12:47 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

How many fatal donut injuries happen every year? Care to check the stats from The American Heart Association statistics on that one? In case you havent noticed Obesiety is now at epidemic proportions not only in this State but in this Country also causing undue stress on the pockets of taxpayers!

Having ridden a motorcycle for the last 36 years I would like to think that despite my pure lack of being a "professional" I sure as hell have more experience than most on the road including you!

I sometimes wear my helmet,I sometimes dont. Either way its my choice and my decision not yours or anybody elses to make for me!

Straight pipes or at least ones you can hear have saved my a$$ in the past and on more than one occasion. Anybody thats an accomplished rider will have a story or 2 about it. ask around!

Instead or worrying about my choices.....put your phone down,dont text,watch your mirrors when changing lanes and stop running yellow lights! It's YOUR actions that can save my life before a helmet ever could!

English first

8:28 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Nobody really limits the amount of soda you can drink. It is probably a money making scam. If you want larger amounts of soda you have to buy two or three cups.

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Karin Gorman

9:26 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Everyday we lose our rights little by litte. From seat belt laws to banning large sodas. How far will we let them choose for us. My husband was in a terrible motorcycle accident last year. He still chooses not to wear a helmit. I choose not to wear a helmet. We know the consequences of our decision. Those who do not ride have no right to weigh in. Maybe everyone should take a motorcycle course to become more aware of the motorcycles that are around them. But you wouldn't like that, that would be someone else making a decision for you to do something you don't want to do.

"Let those who ride decide"~RIMA

Karin Gorman
Candidate- State Representative District 43
RI Motorcycle Association Member # 3733

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Lorraine F

10:06 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

"My husband was in a terrible motorcycle accident last year?"

You "still choose not to wear a helmet".

You are running for public office?????????

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Karin Gorman

11:17 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Lorraine F~

Yes I am. And when someone tries to take something away from you that you do not believe they have the right to, I will speak up for you. How much freedom do we want to lose?

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Chris DeBlois

4:06 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Well said Karin. I too have been in a motorcycle accident and continue to ride without a helmet. Wearing a helmet is uncomfortable; I'm always reaching up because it feels as though the wind is pulling it off. I've tried different types and sizes, but they just don't feel right. My comfort should be my choice, not someone else...especially someone that doesn't even ride.

nimrod

9:41 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Got pulled over yesterday for not wearing a seat belt,in truth,i had it under my arm.After i stopped i unhooked it to get at my registration in the glove compartment not knowing what i was being pulled over for.Result:no ticket.My point:don't harrass me,period.

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Govstench

10:14 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

I love when I see these articles about having compulsory helmet laws or seat belt laws on the books. Talk about losing your personal rights and freedoms.
RI had a compulsory helmet law on the books many years ago and it was the bikers that rose up and forced it off the books. Why? Personal choice. Motorcycle drivers go through a more extensive training than regular automobile drivers to obtain a license. I am also a motorcyclist and went through a defensive driving course. Why? To watch out for the errant drivers who don’t pay attention to the rules of the road. The number one cause of biker crashes is left turns, where drivers don’t see the biker making that left turn at a signal. Bikers are more prone to injury from a side hit from a car!
Regarding helmets for passengers, absolutely.....because the passenger is dependent upon the driver for controlling the bike. If there is an accident, the passenger is protected.

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Govstench

10:14 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Regarding the recently reduced seat belt law, again, more big brother legislation. What people are missing with this “feel good” piece of legislation is that the state received over $4 Million dollars if the state passed that seat belt law with the $85/person penalty for non-compliance. The driver is once again be forced to buckle up - where is the personal choice? Law enforcement didn’t help their cause with the “Click-it-or-ticket” campaign as the leadership of the state police was quoted as saying “the law is expiring soon, shoot as many fish in that barrel as you can.” The resulting roadside checkpoints only angered the motorists. These laws, while they may promote public safety, turn law enforcement personnel into revenue agents. There were even cases of people being ticketed for a seat belt violation when they had to remove them to get the registration out of the glove box. Do drivers have to install video cameras in their vehicles to keep law enforcement abuses in check? We all know there are bad cops out there!

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Govstench

10:25 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Much of these laws are driven by the insurance industry through their lobbyists in Congress. Make no mistake, look at all of the laws enacted and see how your personal freedoms are being taken away. I will give you the recently enacted law in RI last year to charge a fee to salt water fish. Again, more money from the federal government and the surrendering of more of your rights and freedoms. Wake up and see what is going on around you. Perhaps if a law needs to be passed to improve highway safety, why not make mandatory driver examinations every ten years. If have to pass an eye test every five years to renew a license, why not a driving exam every ten years?

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OldTownie

10:31 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Freedom? That's the best arguement you riders can come up with? Well, here's the bad news: Driving in RI is a priviledge, not a right. and before you go all "Teaparty" on me, this has been upheld numerous times in the RI courts.

The "Freedom" that all of you seem to believe in is the absense of responsibilty.

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nimrod

10:49 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Who told you that?Some ignorant politician i guess.You've got a right to be on the road especially since you're taxed every which way on anything automotive.Priviledge?Just a word they use to keep you under control.I'm not buying it.

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OldTownie

11:00 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

nimrod,
Really? Last time I checked, rights can not be revoked, yet there are 1000's of RI'ers out there right now with their "right" to drive suspended or revoked.

If your correct, then why bother to get a driver's Lic. You shouldn't need a permit to excercise your rights.

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Govstench

11:11 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Well, we all know how the RI courts operate and let’s not go there. The responsibility you speak of is the license and maintaining a good driving record. It is when the bar on that privilege is raised to a point where personal freedoms are compromised where people have spoken out on numerous occasions. Again, the seat belt law was allowed to “sunset” because of government abuse. It was a bi-partisan decision. The helmet law was repealed because of public outcry.

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nimrod

11:15 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Rights can be taken away just like priviledges.It was a responsibilty to give up Jews in Nazi Germany.The comparison may be a little off kilter but the concept is the same,the government shouldn't be responsible for your safety,especially when there's big bucks in it.

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OldTownie

3:20 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

nimrod,
Where's the hyperbole? I'm not sure...maybe the part where you compare fanatical genocide with wearing a motorcycle helmet... To say that your comparison was inappropriate is an understatement. Your seriously going to even bring up the muder of 6M people and liken it to your supposed "right" not to wear a helmet? Wow...

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nimrod

3:39 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

I make the comparison because it took ten years in the run up to the death camps.I agree that the comparison is a little stark but the point i'm trying to make is that your freedom can be taken away in dribs and drabs to the point where you won't recognize this place anymore.

Anyone who thinks that freedom can't be taken away here is a poor student of history.

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Chris DeBlois

4:19 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

What you call "absence of responsibility", I see as personal preference. I prefer to not to wear a helmet when I ride. I prefer not to wear a seat belt when I drive. Do I see this as irresponsible as you might? Not at all. When you drive over the speed limit, is that showing an "absence of responsibility", or are you choosing to partake in this possibly dangerous behavior?

Govstench

11:55 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

@nimrod: It is interesting that you refer to Nazi Germany. When I came upon the state police "checkpoint" on exit 7 I-95, there were 8 state police cars with their roof lights blinding everyone. One trooper came up to me looking for my seatbelt and I told him that "Nazi Germany died in 1944 - let's get off this and let the traffic through." He walked away from me. That really ticked me off. I have to check to see if that bill to ban roadblocks ever passed in the legislature.

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NKGOP Watch

12:20 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

I disagree with such roadblocks. Even though they were approved by our supreme court, like eminent domain property taking for economic projects in the Kelo vs New London case, they are still unAmerican in my opinion. That said, any comparison to the fmr fascist state mentioned above is a stretch. That fascists state owned all business and people worked for the interests of the state primarily. It was also based on racial-genocidal policies. In our case we have a democracy where the insurance companies lobby our elected legislature to regulate the safe operation on public highways. The rationale being that folks who dont wear seatbelts and helmets incur costs on the rest of us because their injuries on average are many times more expensive and we pay either through our own insurance premiums or our taxes. Agree or not, that's far from fascism. As to that cop walking away from your political statement, what do you expect, he's a cop! If we hired people capable or predisposed of deep philosophical political thought and discussion, they wouldnt be very good cops. Cops enforce the law.

terry cabral

12:01 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

I think putting on a helmet is a good idea. But if you are going to use one make sure it has a rating on it by rating i mean D.O.T APPROVED SNELL a lot of people use novelty helmet's you might as well use nothing at all. There are other safety items like armor protective jacket's,pant's,boots,gloves,glasses and this could get expensive but you can't put a price on your health and life. If any one needs a hand on any items come on in and i will give a discounted price all ways ride safe Durand's Kawasaki Motorsports 147 main rd Tiverton R.I.

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Govstench

1:04 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

It is all driven by the insurance companies for sure. However, if you have not had an accident, you should be awarded with the lowest rate. But, if you have had an accident, the rate should be up there and if you are in a risk pool and can't afford the premium, then you are off the road. What gets you back on the road you say? You get older......less risk. That is a statistical fact!

Paul Lancia

1:10 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

This issue is about choice. Freedom of choice, a concept that this country was founded on, has fought for and is the basis for our fundamental freedoms. I support the current law that places the freedom of choice in the hands of the motorcycle operator, not those who do not ride and/or think they are justified in imposing their decisions on others.

For the most part, 99% of bikers, riders and motorcyclists in Rhode Island abide by the law. Many of those use safety gear when they see fit. To advocate that a change in the law is necessary would require a showing that the current law is detrimental to the public at large. I don't see it.

Educate, don't legislate. Let thise who ride decide.

These are slogans that ring true when dealing with such issues. If you ride, then you have the choice relative to your employment of safety gear. If you do not ride, then please do not interfere with our freedom of choice.

I am a proud member of the Rhode Island Motorcycle Association.

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Ted Geisel

2:08 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Freedom of choice is an illusion here in RI and the vast majority of Rhode Islanders want it that way. Look at how they vote...

RI already heavily regulates motorcycles and their riders. According to the state website they are the only one to require a special motorcycle class. The state regulates safety equipment also. RIGL 31-23-57, you have to wear eye protection. There are noise restrictions on loud pipes, etc...

To all those who are against helmet laws let me ask you one yes or no question. If RI were to mandate helmet laws would it save the life of at least 1 person over the next decade?

I think everyone knows the answer to that. One life is worth it.

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Govstench

2:39 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

One life is always worth it but the driver still retains the choice. I am sure if you are a biker, you wouldn't be asking that question, which is loaded anyway.

Bud

4:39 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

While I understand the risk/benefit ratio of wearing a helmet, it is a personal decision to be made by the operator and only the operator. This is not an issue that belongs in the government process. This is a case of individual choice, and the freedom to make such a choice. I have been a motorcycle operator for more than 25 years and I am experienced enough, I am old enough, and I have the ability to decide for myself whether or not wearing a helmet is right for me. Furthermore it is my belief that the state need not protect me from myself as my helmet choice poses no risk to any other individuals.

Bud Cardoso
Past President 2005 - 2012
RI Motorcycle Association

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Bud

4:41 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

The truth is that we are all fatalities and there is nothing that the medical community can do about it. Death is a fact that we will not alter no matter how many precautuons we take.....The decisions that we make can postpone the enivatable crtainly. For me, I choose not to smoke, I don’t use illegal drugs or drink heavily. I try to exercise regularly and I eat as best I can. These are the choices that I have made to help prolong my life. I also understand that even if I eliminate all risk in life, and go into the protective bubble with the purified air and water, death will still find me. I only ask that government give me the information that I need to make informed decisions that will allow me to live. I don’t want to be protected from death.

Economics--- Less motorcycles will be sold= less sales tax to the state
Thousands of weekend riders spending thier $ in RI, both RI’ers and MA residents, If helmets required that goes to CT ( already millions going to Fxwds and moheg)
Charities have collected hudreds of thousands(if not millions) from charity rides If helmets required that means less riders less $ to the neediest groups such as Toys fo tots, march of dimes, make a wish, etc

Bud Cardoso
Past President 2005 - 2012
RI Motorcycle Association

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Janice Scarpitti

9:16 am on Monday, April 29, 2013

If I have to wear a seatbelt surrounded by 2000 pounds of metal then yes motorcyclists should wear helmets. My not wearing a seatbelt affects only me as does wearing a helmet only affects the rider. The only difference is the motorcyclists go and lobby to get their way such as using $ for helping children's charities. Please!

Nick

5:24 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

I think passengers should have a right to choose as well. This may be a good time to submit a bill that allows passengers to choose whether or not to wear a helmet in RI. If you agree contact RI Motorcycle Association. Ask what you can do to make a difference and change the law. Join, show your support. Help repeal the passenger requirement forcing you to wear a helmet.
Nick
Member/Volunteer, Rhode Island Motorcycle Association
www.RIMotorcycle.com

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NKTAXPAYER

3:22 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Your statement leads me to believe you have already dumped your bike without a helmet !! 40 years on bikes and i've seen some dumb $#!+ done by riders .Some need warning labels on everything . Remove pass. helmet Law and rider won't carry one to afford the option to a would be passenger.. P.S. Some dumb crap by driver around bikes too !

Govstench

5:27 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Well said Bud, couldn't agree more. This state is in the tank because of over-regulation - too many laws attempting to regulate our lives. It would be interesting to see how many motorcycle shops that are still in RI vs. MA or CT. We are dead last in New England and nationally in business friendliness. Taxes are way too high, too many regulations on small business and the state spends too much money. RI has turned itself into a socialist state and this has to change. Passing more laws, such as these helmet and belt laws have been passed before and repealed. People have spoken out against them and that should put an end to it. Give the motorcyclists a break already and pass a safety course on auto drivers - see if they can pass a road test if you have to pass something!

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scott

11:42 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

I think soda machines should be limited to 1 per square mile and the price per can should go up to no less then 5.00 per can. (4 of which is tax) Tax to pay for hospitalized obese or diabetic patients on Medicaid.

But I also think that people should be able to choose not to wear a helmet.

Why? Because I want to be like many of you that what to be able to pick and choose what is OK to do and what is not OK for everybody… Just like the Government.

Think about it folks… Choice is precious and become an endangered species. You may get your way on the repeal some day but you may be next on the target of control.

Scott L. in Nebraska
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raven ciccone

1:52 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012

Why do you think motorcycle insurance companies don't require helmets? It's cheaper for them if you are dead than if you are a vegetable. I consider motorcycles Darwinian. If you ride like an idiot and don't wear a helmet you are less likely to reproduce. Society wins.

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Rhodeworrier

7:56 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Maybe the GA is waiting for Federal money, thats what it took to pass the seat belt law.The only time this State cares about anyones health is when they can make a buck off it.

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christina

6:06 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

EVERYBODY should be wearing helmets no matter what! i just got mine from 2wheelbikes dot com /bike-helmets they are great on my wallet and even better on my son's head! promote safe riding people!

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Jack Baillargeron

10:14 am on Monday, April 29, 2013

Current Law is fine, quit wasting time and work on the Jobs GA and Budget.

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