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A Town Divided - Why is Music Controversial?

What music was controversial when you went to high school? What do you think it is about music that often divides generations?

 

It was a real life story of Footloose on Saturday night, when the Middletown High School administration stopped a homecoming dance early after students protested a policy that prohibits sexually explicit dancing, often referred to as grinding.  

Students claimed the DJ would not allow requests, and only played alternative music; a genre that most students said they did not like or know how to dance to.  

After failed attempts to request their favorite music, such as Nicki Minaj, the majority of the student body sat on the floor and chanted in protest.  Some students even reported a near riot broke out.  The school administration denied that a riot took place.

The administration stopped the dance an hour and a half early and sent the students home.  

When it comes to music and dance, generational resistance, as well as passionate teenage rebellion, is nothing new.

In the 1980s, breakdancing was prohibited by many schools as it was often tied to gangs as well as considered physically dangerous.  In the 1950s, teenagers hid rock-and-roll records under their beds, since many adults believed the genre manipulated the innocent youth or that rock-and-rollers were deviants.  

Mozart and Beethoven were regarded as dangerous and sometimes even sexually perverse; the "major chord" system was offensive to many Christians.

Many mainstream dances in other cultures, would be considered sexually explicit and inappropriate at an American high school dance.  

Music and dance stir emotion, create controversy and often provoke rebellion.

Since the 1970s, punk and hard-rock shows have been known for riots and aggressive behavior, which often require the use law enforcement to tame.

This past weekend, the choice between songs, divided a town. Why is music controversial?

Think back, what was type of music controversial when you went to high school? What do you think it is about music that often divides generations?

Related Topics: Grinding, Homecoming Dance, and Middletown high school

East side

2:40 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Teachers and Administrators are to blame. I believe this was a set up for complete failure. How come? Because teaching is the best paid part time job in America. These activities are outside the normal part time day job. I also feel teachers were jealous, maybe if they did more this type of dance at home they would be less stressed.

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Sage-RI

3:53 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

East side: Your comments are way off topic--give me a break! Teachers are NOT part-time workers and who are they jealous of? Marlo is so right on target. Shame on you, East side--methinks you doth protest too much!

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Lori Grayson

4:22 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Teachers and Admins are to blame? Who would want to have to see a bunch of horny teenagers grinding up against each other and calling that "dancing". They can save that for the back seat...

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ccryder

8:01 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

i agree teachers are part time. no way to measure their performance either. teachers in ri make more than engineers in some instances.

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Michael J. Clarke

8:16 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

East side, I disagree with you on this issue, but you have every right to take potshots at school officials, specifically, and to express your opinions, in general. Perhaps your comments would be taken more seriously, however, if you had the courage to identify yourself.

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Bob Parr

8:56 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

I suspect this Country is in the shape that it is in partially because of the belief of many that teachers (who should be the most important influences on our children's lives aside from the parents) are overpaid and under-worked. IMO, there is NO more important job - period. Better education, in general, lowers the crime rate, usually has a positive effect on the economy, and creates a more pleasant society in which to live. Some, however, apparently would rather cut back on teachers and/or their salaries and instead increase the number of police officers that are usually required in less educated communities.

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DMChasmail

2:13 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Wow, East side. You seriously need to spend a day with a teacher! Seriously!

Marlo

3:28 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

East side, Please learn to stick to the topic. You are obviously a severely ignorant individual who is hiding behind a cryptic monniker. I would suggest you volunteer in a classroom and learn what teachers have to do to teach large numbers of students with multiple needs and learning ablilities.
As for the issue at hand, This is not really a music issue, but a societal one. Administration should probably bend a little and students need to treat adults in authority with respect (whether they believe they deserve it) and understand they are not entitled to their every want.

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East side

4:14 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

I am staying on topic. Teachers and administrators should have been able to handle this situation. Except, all I hear about is how teachers are not paid to work these events. So they go into this situation already with an attitude of negative.

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Leave RI

4:38 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

"Think back, what was type of music controversial when you went to high school? What do you think it is about music that often divides generations"
This is the proposed question..East Side you're way off base and probably need a nap.

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East side

5:27 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Let's use logic everyone...if the teachers and administration had done their job in the first place then this form of act as being forbidden would have already been addressed at former dances. The administration seems to have wanted to cause drama and they got it. Now to address Lori above, she is correct. Ending the dance and hour and a half early leads to the question...how to use this quality time? Lori sees the back seat as an opportunity. Some would suggest an ad hoc bible study. The teachers...who knows what they do with all their free time but they are used to having it.

Tired of NK antics

4:06 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Yes mario, this generation in general, is suffering from the lack of true parenting. Many parents are so eager to give their children the things they themselves did not have. This has created a sense of entitlement...they ask and they receive. No sense of accomplishment for the "everyone gets a trophy" generation.
Re: teachers...they are part time. 9 months (185 work days) per year. Im sure they work hard while they are there, but it is still for 9 months or 185 work days per year. If you subtract personal days and seminars...its less than that.

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Kim

7:18 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

The last time I counted, school spanned across 10 months not 9. September to June. Also, part-time usually refers to a person who works less than 35 hours a week, on a regular basis, not the number of days in a year. The school day is 6 3/4 hrs, 5 days a week, which is obviously more than 35 hrs a week. If you want to throw digs to get your point across, then just do it. Once you back up your insults with erroneous facts, you just sound ignorant.

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Hmm..In Green Hill

7:51 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

@Kim.. The school year spans over the course of 10 months.. however, if you factor in winter break which is around 2 weeks, february vacation, a week, april vacation, a week.. It's 9 months of working 6 3/4 hours, 5 days a week.. that is "obviously" NOT 35 hours. It's just over 33. That is part time. So before YOU insult people for "erroneous facts", you should make sure you are not the one who sounds ignorant.

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Bill Santagata

8:26 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Green Hill: I can guarantee you that I can come up with at far more than 2 extra hours a week *easily* in planning, grading, extra help, volunteering as advisor to the French club, corresponding with parents, among the many many other duties that are expected of teachers. Teachers do not show up at the morning bell, wing their lessons, then leave at 2:00 and consider themselves done for the day.

If you consider teaching to be such a cushy position, then I encourage you to be one. It is not difficult at all to get a preliminary teaching license in Massachusetts: you need a 4-year college degree and to pass the MTEL (teachers' test) in reading/writing and your subject area. Once you have this however, you must supplement it with PDPs (professional development points, which must culminate in a presentable project) as well as work on getting your master's degree. (This must be done on your own time.) You will also have to undergo several formal observations by your curriculum supervisor: be prepared to draw up detailed lesson plans outlining which standards you will be invoking for your pre-observation conferences.

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Sage-RI

9:23 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Thank you, Bill Santagata and Kim, for setting the record straight (and accurate, I might add) to Hmmm....in Green Hill's tirade. And, for the record, dissing teachers (again!!!) is way off topic here.

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Kim

7:53 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

I apologize for thinking you knew the "school day" is the time the students attend school, not the time the teachers work. It's just pretty obvious that if the kids are in school 33.75 hours a week, that the teachers must be spending at least another 1.25 hours, as the teachers are not allowed to walk into school at the very time the students are, and leave at the first dismissal bell. My kids don't even get dismissed until almost 10 minutes after the "6.75hr bell". Do you think the teachers leave and the kids are still in the classroom? I did not touch upon actual teacher contractual time, because all school districts could be different. But, even if the teachers were required to arrive merely 11 minutes early and stay 10 minutes later, that would be an extra hour and 45 minutes, which is is what I was referring to as "obviously over 35 hours". However, considering the number of teacher cars in the parking lot well after dismissal, and the amount of "stuff" they carry with them when they leave earlier, I would say their day hasn't ended, but rather they are allowed to take their work home. If they were required to stay and finish, they would get paid more. So be happy with the current situation. Also, Fall river has an extended day, which is 7:30-3:30.

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DMChasmail

2:17 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Hmm..In Green Hill, you're not taking into consideration all the time that is spent in prep for the new school year...and then using "school breaks" to prep again for each new school semester...and the class planning...and the homework that needs to be gone over...and corrected...and the one-on-one help with students before and after school hours...and...

Island Porkrunner

4:17 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

music is controversial because it represents freedom.

George Hanson: You know, this used to be a helluva good country. I can't understand what's gone wrong with it.
Billy: Man, everybody got chicken, that's what happened. Hey, we can't even get into like, a second-rate hotel, I mean, a second-rate motel, you dig? They think we're gonna cut their throat or somethin'. They're scared, man.
George Hanson: They're not scared of you. They're scared of what you represent to 'em.
Billy: Hey, man. All we represent to them, man, is somebody who needs a haircut.
George Hanson: Oh, no. What you represent to them is freedom.
Billy: What the hell is wrong with freedom? That's what it's all about.

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kyle

4:17 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Those damn kids and their dancing! Get off my lawn!

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Bob Parr

4:51 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

It's not about the music but rather the dance. I'm a pretty easy going guy but I wouldn't want my high school daughter (if I had one) doing the "grind" in public (or in private for that matter) with some dude I might not know while the lights are turned down low. Kudos to the teachers, not only for stopping that type of dancing at school, but for also letting the KIDS know just WHO is in charge on campus. Having said that, however, I do believe the parents have a valid point about the kids being allowed to wander off without them being contacted or provisions being made to get the kids home.

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Bob Parr

5:01 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

When I was in High School (1950's rock and roll) we had a similar (slow) dance called the grind and you would definitely get kicked out of the dance (at school or the "rec" center") for doing it - and might even get suspended for a few days.

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Govstench

12:42 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

That's why cars were so popular in those days!

Kathy DiPina

7:34 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Oh please. Let the kids dance however they want. It's a form of expression and if they want to grind then let them grind. I went to school in the 70's....class of 1976, The Bicentennial Class. I'm also a Greek and I'm sure that schools would frown upon a Greek girl arriving in a belly dance costume and proceed to shimmy. I say that dance is a form of freedom of speech and nobody has the right to censor unless they bring religion into a public school. If they even try to suggest that grinding is against Christian values I'd be on the phone with the
ACLU in a heartbeat.

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Bob Parr

8:22 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Common decency (if there is such a thing these days) should say SOME things are more suited to be done in private. School should be about teaching children how to become responsible adults (at least when in public) and allowing these sort of things, IMO, can have only a negative influence on the already difficult times of a teenager. In my day, girls who would "grind" had a less than respectable reputation and I can imagine what might happen to such girls these days with the likes of "Facebook".

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Bill Santagata

8:28 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Dancing is a form of "speech plus" (expressive, symbolic speech) and therefore subject to a lower threshold of constitutional scrutiny under the Free Speech Clause. The Supreme Court has already ruled that vulgar and obscene speech has absolutely no protection in a public school environment (Bethel School District v. Fraser).

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Sage-RI

9:20 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Yeah, Kathy D., the apple does not fall far from the tree.

Chmn

7:44 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

I think we should have a law that prohibits sexual thoughts until teens reach 18. Doesn't the grind originate from Arifican fertility rituals?

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Bill Santagata

8:33 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

This article is ridiculous. This is not about uptight grownups getting their knickers in a twist about music selection. It is about unruly kids engaging in sexually lascivious acts in public after being warned several times not to do so. Schools are under no obligation to host dances. If the student body cannot control themselves while attending them, then the school does not need to host them.

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ccryder

8:43 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

ok so now there will be a policy in place and kids who disagree may choose not to attend. the issue is not very complex. pretty one dimensional.....

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Michael J. Clarke

9:16 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

There was ALREADY a policy in place.

Gary S.

9:00 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

This article doesn't tellt he whole story...that Nicki Manaj song that the DJ wouldn't play...the lyrics go, and I quote, "So F*ck who you want and F*ck who you like." This was a school sponsored event. And to the mid-life crisis crew who wants to be cool and "relate" to this generation...your version of grinding is very different than now. It literally is dry humping and imitating doggy-style sex, so stop trying to be the "cool" parent and actually start to parent your children. I cannot even believe there are people on here questioning the adults who volunteered their time and were forced to make the tough decision to end the dance when the kids got completely out-of-control. They yelled and were disrespectful to the adults attempting to do the job they were there to do. These kids are not at a frat party, they are in high school, they are minors. They are not adults, they do not have the right to do whatever they want.

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eastbaybabe

5:57 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

I totally agree with you, the adults whom are backing up their kids, are exactly that themselves, children, because any real parent would put the hammer down on this real fast! Really sick of the non parenting approach they have these days, sure i will be your best bud. No sorry, Im a parent then a friend!

Politics Sheriff of NK

9:21 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Right is right and wrong is wrong. And each is obvious to all concerned, adult and adolescent. When adults set limits on me at that age, I resisted, but inwardly, I was relieved that someone was setting decent limits for me to live by that due to the nature of the adolescent brain, I wasn't yet ready to set for myself. This was a good decision, and a definite benefit to these kids.

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ccryder

9:32 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

ok so a policy was ALREADY in place. how about a contingency plan?

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Michael J. Clarke

3:47 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

I would not have handled it the way the principal did; there were, from what I've heard and read, more innocent than guilty parties. I would have made the following announcement: Students, we have asked you nicely to comply with our written policy banning "grinding." From this point on, all grinders will be asked to leave the dance floor, call up your parents, and be escorted home by them. Those who do not comply with this request will be escorted "somewhere" by our police officer.

Tired of NK antics

10:33 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Since the dance was sponsored by the school and held on school property, the administration has the right to create and enforce any any rule they see fit. If your child (or you, parent) feel the rules are overreaching or unfair, you have the choice to NOT attend. Very simple. If you want to let your teenage son or daughter dry hump their dance partner in public, maybe you should host a "hump party" yourself. It is not a requirement of the school district to do so.

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raven ciccone

12:59 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

When is the next Hump Party at your house? I need to figure out what to wear.

eastbaybabe

5:50 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

ccryder, maybe if the school board gave the music teacher more than 15 for her budget for " the year" for three schools the kids would be getting a more efficient education. oh and by the way, your comment about how much teachers make, is the funniest joke i have heard in years! thanks for the laugh!
Kids have been dancing like that for years, I think if the kids want a dance, it should be run by parents, the parents dont do enough as far as getting invovlved with activities like this, they dont have time, let the teachers deal with it, why dont you deal with it and get a little taste of what your kids are really doing when your not around! Im sick of the parents these days barley raising their kids, disrespectful little punks are what they are today. most of them anyways.

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eastbaybabe

5:51 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

few spelling corrections needed there, excuse me for typing to fast!

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Cheese Ball

7:06 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Olga? I'm going to start calling you Bueller! The dance was NOT cancelled due to "grinding". This particular group of kids does NOT know how to dance. What they attempted to do in the beginning was grind but in reality it wasn't even close. The dance was cancelled because they started a mosh pit. I hope as the editor of Middletown Patch and the ring leader of this three ring circus getting everyone fired up, you would at least do your homework and follow up with the school system. Who did you talk to the senior class?! I'm disappointed. The kids were not released they left. Anyone without a ride had to sit in the gym and wait; the others snuck out or forced their way out. Please before starting an online patch sponsored "riot" please do your homework. All this is turning into is people arguing over self-expression.

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Henry Doyle

7:47 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

To quote the late 20th century philosopher Will Smith, "Parents just don't understand".

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Yankee Clipper

10:22 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Ah yes, DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince from "I'm the DJ he's the rapper. Good stuff. I know it's off topic but back in the day, before the tv show. I was listening to him on vinyl Break dancing and gangs?? I an from the 80's from Providence. I will have to disagree there.Coming from the city I don't want to comment too much on this because I have an urban point of view..

Kevin Oliver

8:55 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Its odd to me where I read this whole post and not one of you put the blame on the families. What the hell happened to parents being responsible. Or better yet we are talking about H.S. are these teenagers that immature that they can't adhere to the rules. Stop the dances ... there will be plenty of time later for you to dance on poles when you get older...

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MILSPECGUY

10:16 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Solution to this issue: 1) Have students agree in playlist and have it run up thru administration for approval. 2) teach everyone's kids how to dance the right way, i.e (hip hop dance classes, salsa , slow dancing.. or whatever.. ) 3) have kids sign ticket stubs upon entry with disclaimer written on them that any prolong provocative dancing which imitates sexual acts will be cause for immediate dismissal...

I have been to night clubs in which these kids see from dance, grind, sexual innuendos examples of every major music video they feed themselves of from you-tube or MTV.

They will try to imitate these acts no matter what we say or do. SO... please.. please.. please.. lets fix these problems without playing the blame game.. there is still a lot of school left for middle-town high students and a bunch of activities that need to be reviewed to ensure this does not occur again..

From a concerned parent of a senior at MHS..

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Jay Down South in Dixie

10:49 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Ahem - the question was: "[W]hat was [sic] type of music controversial when you went to high school? What do you think it is about music that often divides generations?"

Not one person has answered either of these questions. So I'll go out on a limb: When I was in high school, any music that suggested or encouraged sex, directly or in directly, was cause for adults to come down on kids, on live bands (my band was banned (ha ha) from ever playing at Lincoln High School again by an irate principal who didn't like our clothes or our play list), dances and all of the above. Rock 'n" roll was subversive then, a "threat" to "American values." The FBI spent over $1M in U.S. Taxpayers' money in the 60's (probably about $10 in today's money) to try to decipher the lyrics of the Kingsmen's "Louie Louie," because everyone *just knew* that the lyrics were pornographic. (They weren't; not even close.) When I was in high school, getting kicked out of a dance or suspended from school for doing "the Alligator," "the Dirty Dog" --- or if you and your partner were really rebels, "the Hunch" -- was a badge of honor. It was "in your face" to parental and school authority.

As long as school teachers and administrators are thrust into the role of "in loco parentis," they are going to catch flack. My soul is with the kids; but my heart is with the teachers and administrators. Let's try to learn from this and move on.

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Leave RI

11:06 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Jay -
I don't know where the live band to DJ transitioned. I'm assuming sometime in the early to mid 80's. But thanks for bringing that back. It was different. Our live bands were limited to the standards "Color My World" and the undance-able "Whole Lotta Love" and of course the high school age band version sounded like a bag of cats going down the stairs...anyway.

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Barbara

4:29 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012

Jay, I went to NKHS in the late 1970's. It was the heyday of disco (UGH), and we did the Hustle. "Love to Love you Baby" by Donna Summer was one of the big controversies at that time. I'm so embarrassed.

Lamont Cranston

11:32 am on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

East side what are you 12? Pretty clear you have an axe to grind with educators. Its the culture and weak hyper parenting that pervade society that not only causes foolishness like that but that leads feeble minded people like you to stray so far from reality its laughable. You most likely couldnt cut it in school and arerent probaby arent educated enough to be a teacher. So instead you make jackasstic remarks on the patch probably from the computer in your parents basement.
Get a clue.

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William

2:22 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

"No one puts baby in the corner"--- the problem is not the music!--- it is how the music is understood or heard- and who steps to it.... Teachers are hired to mold and to teach.... not to force in thoughts but to pull forth- to create ideas and questions, But you are all really in the dark and have been for some time, Parents have a big job, you are not your kids buddies- you must mold, help, instruct, give disipline, and beyond the work of the teachers-- it does take a village- sadly the world at large is pandering sex and bad actions.-- Where is the wholesome idea of kids playing, sharing, caring?... kids see sex, violence, hate, rebellion, war, greed and break down of self and country all the time!!! And now we want them to Waltz?---Our country is preverted- we can send a child to war now-18yrs old but want them not to notice the horror-- and beyond that they should not drink and should not engage in sex--- My generation does not know how to raise children (kids of the late 70's-80's) We threw all the rules out for what-- a world of Cyber Crap that is only slowing us down, locking our kids in a room with a control device, vid game or joy stick...Few children go out and play, run, takes in air and climb a trees, Now I hear kids number one thought is will they make it through the day-- and not get gunned down... Kids kill now- and "parents' do nothing but turn on the TV or the Cell phone and give less and less to their kids.... IT"s not the Teachers Fault- Its everyones!

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Dryheave

2:39 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

More Middletown foolishness. Nothing more, nothing less. *Yawn*

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TAMORI

3:20 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

"ccryder
8:01 pm on Tuesday, October 16, 2012
i agree teachers are part time. no way to measure their performance either. teachers in ri make more than engineers in some instances."

Hey ccryder - What’s wrong with teachers making as much as, or more than, engineers? And tell me again how the engineers learn their skills anyway?

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Jennifer

6:41 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

I'm sure there must be a video of their dancing around on some social network. I think it should be found, and let all the people who think this is ok, check it out. Then say what they think. I really think some are thinking of the "old" grinding when there was no contact. If they could see this is just sex with your cloths on, they may feel different...

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IMHO

11:22 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

I think that is an extremely misguided headline in regards to the problems at and cancellation of the homecoming dance. This seems to be about more than just controversial music. From what I have read and heard from students this sounds to me more like a story of teens feeling oppressed by 'new rules' and trying to protest against them. It's my understanding that this year for the homecoming festivities the administration decided to enforce rules previously ignored as well as create some new ones. This was made clear to the students. But to them they were and are unfair, unreasonable, excessively restrictive, and took away their 'right' to makes choices. Taking away or keeping something from a teen that they thought was or should be their God given right will ALWAYS create a controversy. It's all about perspective. Do I agree with their perspective? Nope. I don't have to and they are still entitled to it.
If memory serves, some 15 years ago they only played a certain number of ‘slow’ songs at school dances, homecoming themes had to be cleared by the administration, and as part of a new dress code wearing baseball hats inside the building was banned (another horrific oppression inflicted by the administration). Now it seems silly and I find it very disrespectful for someone to wear their hat in doors. It was unacceptable and disrespectful before, then, or now. I just didn't know that then.

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Cheese Ball

7:15 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Well said. Again this has turned into another Patch sponsored rant. Most of the people commenting have admitted to being adults but are stamping their feet and throwing a temper tantrum.

Stanley Farak

5:15 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I answer to the question posed..........Damn you Elvis and Chubby Checker...you started it all....Remember, Ed Sulivan wouldn't show Elvis from the waste down. Tsk,tsk. The twist was considerd riske'. just having fun showing my age!!

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Lion King

12:18 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Part 1 of 2

Among other things, this is another example of the ever-present generational gap. Teenagers vs adults. Teachers, administrators, and parents vs teenage students. Each side has their perspective and it is always very difficult to get either side to appreciate the other’s. But, imposed on these situations is the responsibility that each side has toward the other – a compact, if you will. Teachers, administrators, and parents are responsible for a number of things, but paramount among them is to teach teenagers the code of civil behavior and the omni-present nature of showing respect to superiors, to peers, and to oneself. Students on the other hand, are responsible for conforming to the established rules, recognizing that there is a reason for their existence and, should they disagree with them, to “protest” them in as mature and non-disruptive manner as possible. As young adults, teenage students should also be mature enough to know that they are responsible for their actions. And if their protest should take some untoward or unacceptable form, then they should expect consequences.

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Lion King

12:18 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Part 2 of 2

Now, in this instance, the administration had informed students of the policies well in advance. In fact, representatives from the student body had approached the administration to request a relaxation of the policy. Their request was considered, but in the end it was denied. It doesn’t take much to jump to a conclusion that at least some of the “protestors” at the dance had attended with a chip already on their shoulder.

I just wish that the adults chaperoning the dance could have devised a better way to isolate the guilty and let the innocent continue enjoying the dance. But I guess it must have been a fairly fast-moving scene without a great deal of cooperation from the students. So in the end, hopefully, both sides have learned lessons. But it is sad when some parents can’t get beyond some warped sense that their child has been wronged, even when many of them were clearly not only in violation of pre-announced rules, but also were attempting to incite others to join them and create further friction and disruption. For them, it appears impossible to see why the administration’s actions were, at least, the safest decision for everyone’s sake.

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SC

1:12 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

More on topic with the original question....

I believe Music is controversial because it's a form of rebellion, a right of passage that every teen goes through to some extent. I'm not sure about the pre-Elvis days but I do believe this all started with rock and roll and the fact that we were all going to hell (in-a-handbasket) for listening to it. In my day it was the (later) Beatles, Black Sabbath, Ozzy, etc. Parents were sure their kids were on the road to ruin or destined to become drug addicts or satanists, which didn't happen.

Does anyone remember in the 70s/80s when they tried to make us believe there were sinister messages hidden on albums if you played the record backwards?

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raven ciccone

1:29 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

For goodness sake people! School dances are a privilege not a right. I'm not sure about Middletown but in NK they are made possible by many, many parent volunteers. I've "worked" my share. I tend to get fun jobs like guarding the doors to keep kids from escaping. No, I'm not a teacher if that matters.
This issue is an easy fix. Parents and kids would need to sign a permission slip stating they will follow rules about dancing, language in music, dress code and whatever else is needed. If kids can't follow the rules to which they and their parents agreed then they will have to be picked up. Our slips back in the day defined how much of a couple's body could be touching! I really wish I had one of those to show you all.
Yes, kids today can be ridiculously entitled and unappreciative. How dare a a whole bunch of people volunteer to do something fun and safe for them! Not knowing anything more than what is written here, it sounds like some kids had a temper tantrum, as spoiled children tend to do. I assume the ones that left broke a rule or two and can be banned from further extra-curricular activities.
It sounds like MHS hired the wrong DJ. Although I'd probably be thrilled chaperoning a dance with alternative music, it's not what kids want. It's not easy to DJ a PG rated event in an R rated world and still get kids to dance and have fun. If anyone would like the the name of a good one we've used, please pm me.

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Jeff Crawford

1:42 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Middletown High never had a problem with our dances in 1974-1977 and we listened and danced to the Stones, Led Zepplin, Davis Bowie, the Clash, the Tubes, Boston, Heart, Aerosmith etc. My how times have changed.

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raven ciccone

2:10 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

How many f'bombs, overt references to rape and other violent crimes or misogynistic or racist themes were in those songs Jeff?

Doctor

2:00 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Music was not the problem at the dance. Music has never been a problem, for many years. The problem was the dance being done to the music, the grinding. If the kids had never wanted to do it there would have never been a problem but the music was not the problem.

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raven ciccone

2:17 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Again, I wasn't there but it really seems the problem was spoiled children that aren't used hearing the word no.

Can we please hear from someone that was there? TE? Gary S?

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mark henricks
12:28 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
So, who runs the school? students or parents?

kids these days think they can control everyone. parents are whipped and teachers dont want to deal with the rotten kids.

Bravo, mark.

ZeroWampumInPocket

2:17 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

raven you are so on point with that. this grinding is along with so vulgar music its sickening!

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OrangesPoranges

12:52 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

All of this constitutes reason #437 why I am relieved that I never had children.

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David Lafleche

6:23 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Who needs this garbage? Stay home and read a book!

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